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Post trailer queen...
Bought a new fairing, upper fairing, etc to get my bike back to new.

Tear into it and find broken tabs on the headlight. Head light is $400 shipped. Now considering turning Red bike into a trailer queen, and trying to ebay remaining parts.

Bodywork 101 questions:
-how good is the woodcraft set?
-how much of a hassle is getting these things to fit?
-durability of race bodywork? I seem to crash alot.
-general advice?


Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:43 am
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Post Re: trailer queen...
If you're talking Woodcraft that meaning Armour Bodies, good stuff. Some of the best available. Woodcraft is the US distributor for them. They are a Canadian company.


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Post Re: trailer queen...
Yup, Armor Bodies is a close second to Sharkskinz for quality and fitment. They both typically fit pretty well right out of the box.

Durability is excellent. Typically after a crash you just patch with some new fiberglass, fill, sand, and paint. I'm just learning how to do fiberglass repair and it's not really that bad!

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Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:02 am
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2:00a.m.?!?
I hope you were drinkin'! :D

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Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:21 pm
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Post Re: trailer queen...
Many years ago when Road Racing World mag did their bodywork comparison, not really a shoot out article, Armour Bodies pretty much won. That was a long time ago and I haven't read a similar article since so things may have changed a bit. However, you couldn't go wrong with either AB or Sharkskinz.

I'm a fan of AB because besides the fact they make great stuff I've dealt directly with the owner Billy Solmes twice with my RC51 bodywork. Without going into a long story his customer service was awesome, second to none.

You asked how much of a hassle is it to fit it, I believe it depends on the bike. My Armour Bodies RC51 bodies were a pain in the ass, much more so the first round because we had the issues pretty much worked out after the initial fit. They were molded from a borrowed set of Honda Canada's HRC superbike bodywork. Since I'm poor and don't have an HRC tank, front mount radiator, superbike sub-frame, exhaust, etc, it took a lot of doing to get everything pretty much right. With a bike like the CBR1000RR I don't think there would be those kind of issues. I'm betting Billy didn't go down the same development road as he did with the RC51. It's probably based on the street bodywork like most manufacturers do and should basically bolt right up.

Like Rich said durability is normally really good. The reason I chose to replace my bodywork over repairing it was because it was pretty busted up from my crash and Billy made me a ridiculous good price offer on a brand new, slightly updated design set. It would have been very time involved for me to repair it. Not to mention I had already repaired the tail once before from a minor get off.

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Post Re: trailer queen...
funfred wrote:
2:00a.m.?!?
I hope you were drinkin'! :D

Nope.. Working on my home network.

Granted, it's a little more complex than some. ;-)

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Post Re: trailer queen...
Dude! I need a rack for my entertainment center's components, like 8 shelves worth of space. Where do I get something like that and still be able to blend it in with the living room furnishings? I've looked...all too industrial or not enough capacity or just too damn glam for the utilitarian purpose for which it will serve.
My first choice is to dress up the cinder block and plywood routine, but I'm sure to get shot down. :D

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No idea.. That H-rack is as utilitarian as it comes, but it's in the basement, I don't care.

For the theater components, I'm still rockin' the $99 rack we bought from Target years ago. the damn thing is strong enough to hold half of that network gear and 250lbs of audio gear - on glass shelves. I'm honestly surprised nothing broke.

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Post Re: trailer queen...
So after some thought, this is my current plan.

Since Red bike is so awesome in comparison to blue bike, I don't think I'm ready to resign myself to blue bike mediocre performance for commuting and errand running. So until I can afford to replace ol' Blue with an Orange or different Red Bike, I'd like the ability to keep red on the road.

After many good recommendations for Armour Bodies, both from this site and the EGT staff at the IMS show, I'd leaning toward AB body work painted the original red (leaving the black stripes off), but drill extra holes so I can still mount the mirrors (and thus turn signals). Underneath the mirrors, I propose making a bracket reaching from under one mirror's bolts to the other, to mount some removable headlights. This way 4 bolts and some quick connectors removes turn signals and headlights simply and easily converting it from street mode to track mode.

Below is a poorly constructed 'artists' rendition (used paintbrush) of this simulated glasses wearing look from an old photo. (use your imagination some...)

Any input on my plan and/or commentary on how awful the headlight/streetfighter/magoo glasses looks is welcome.


Also thank you to Frederick von Fun, for steering me toward the Vortex rearsets... they seem to be nice pieces.


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Post Re: trailer queen...
I'm a form follows function kinda guy, so I dig it. As long as you're OK with it, screw anyone who gives you shit. Chances are if they do, they don't ride track and don't 'get it' anyway.

Personally, I don't like riding at night, so I wouldn't be so concerned about finding the best performing lights. 1 aimed down for 'low beam', one for 'high beam' should get you past inspection, should you actually want to inspect it, since you already have the turn signals in the mirrors, and IIRC, you are running the stock tail section (or can swap that easily enough) for tail lights/turn signals.

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Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:49 am
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Post Re: trailer queen...
Don't cheap out on the lights. If you're gonna ride at night, you'll not only want to see well, you'll want to see dependably.
Baja Designs...top shelf.
PIAA...et al, at a minimum.
Don't even think about the crap on the shelf at auto whatever, wallyworld, the truckstop...they're not worth it on so many levels.

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Post Re: trailer queen...
Dood it was a weight off my shoulders when I bought a designated, track only bike... The conversion thing is a pain in the shorts and can cost more then just acquiring a budget minded bike... especially when the unfortunate kiss of tarmac occurs.

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A box made of cardboard arrived today, with parts made of fiberglass...

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61Cubes wrote:
A box made of cardboard arrived today, with parts made of fiberglass...

:banana:


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Post Re: trailer queen...
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:rich:

Conversion...yeah, I have an '02 GSX-R750 trackbike only that would be a good candidate, but sidestand alone says, no...then lights and mirrors?
Where's the "shoot myself" smilie?

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Post Re: trailer queen...
Looking at the bodywork, it looks like the lower wants to mount to the out side of the muffler, and replace the factory heat shield. Is this right? Will it hold up to muffler heat being only a short gap away?


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Post Re: trailer queen...
Put some of the stick on heat shield tape on the inside of the fairings where the exhaust is close to be safe.

I covered the whole lower part of the belly pan on the RC51 because the first time I fired her up I swear I could smell hot fiberglass. The front header pipe runs the length of the pan and joins near the shock linkage. I covered it all up to be safe and haven't had any issues.

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Post Re: trailer queen...
To add to my above post, I didn't remember using heat shield tape on my first AB belly pan so I went and looked. Nope, no tape and no heat problems through the many years of running that pan. I'm not sure if it was necessary but I used it anyway.

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Post Re: trailer queen...
It's a start- more trimming and drilling required, but I got the intake flappers removed and down sensor remounted.


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Post Re: trailer queen...
Esteemed moto experts, am I supposed to cut the snorkel tubes to be larger? Seems like a small aperture in which to breathe (x2 of course), but I didn't want to cut it since the fairing runner? sitting within the tube is the only thing holding the front of the tube. Get back to me tonight if possible, it's supposed to be on its way for paint tomorrow. Thanks-


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So you're saying the OEM tube is smaller than the hole in the AB fairings? Hard to see what exactly I'm looking at. My RR is an older generation.


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Post Re: trailer queen...
The hole in the fairing is smaller and projects rearward into airtubes. Here's a pic of the air tube-


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Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:23 pm
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Ah yes now I see. Personally I would enlarge the holes to match the snorkels. I'm pretty sure Honda did their homework on the size of the intakes. I would doubt restricting them would do much good. That's weird AB made them smaller.


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What do the holes in the OEM fairing look like?


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Post Re: trailer queen...
The airtubes basically just get a trim ring. So it's the same size as the picture. Went out and looked at it again, there isn't much taper to the holes the fairing, so I'd have to cut alot off to gain cross section...

I'm torn, I guess I could always remove more later tho if it's an issue.


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