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Oh and I forgot to mention, looking good Cubes. You are giving me incentive to make my trailer nice.

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3 pics:

First thing in the morning sunlight from the 2 windows. It seemed brighter than what the picture shows. Definately took most of the dungeness out.

Loaded with most of the stuff for 3 people. The 300 was in the bed of the truck, along with gas cans and genny.

Shortly after arriving, and setting up.

Overall happy with the first outing. Towed fairly easy as well.


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Lookin good dude! Glad it worked well for ya! Hope your canopy survived the storm!

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That's a pretty sweet setup, but where is the hot tub? I'd love to pick up an enclosed trailer at some point. Maybe if I start taking my family camping, I can use your setup to convince the wife.


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Portable A/C is on order, getting a Haier HPB08XCM. Wish I had put a piece of wood in the wall to add a dryer vent for the hose heat duct. Considering drilling a hole in the floor, way up in the vee. Gotta think about it some more.


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Portable A/C is on order, getting a Haier HPB08XCM. Wish I had put a piece of wood in the wall to add a dryer vent for the hose heat duct. Considering drilling a hole in the floor, way up in the vee. Gotta think about it some more.


Everyone I've seen with a portable A/C does just that, drilling a hole through the floor for the vent..

One guy got slick and attached a elbow to a bit of plate aluminum underneath, for the vent to direct it away from the trailer, held on with some wing nuts. when not in use, a similar-sized piece of plate with no hole replaces the one with the elbow to keep critters out.

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A/C is plumbed in. Heat hose slips over 4" pvc pipe, so I used a 4" toilet flange bolted from under neath (and siliconed of course), and cut the socket end off a street 45deg fitting. The fitting sits in the flange, and the hose slips semi loosely over top of the elbow. Despite the looseness it really didnt leak much air at all during my trail run. I need to cut a piece of screen for under the 45 fitting, and also make a plug, for when it's not in use.

It throws a lot of air out of the trailer however, which means it's drawing in alot of hot outside air in of course. I hope it's still able to cool alright. What do others do to vent a single hose portable ac in a trailer?


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Cool! (no pun intended.. well, maybe)

I don't know that anyone I've seen has any kind of airflow management designed in. Since you have the roof vent, that's an obvious choice for where to let the "fresh air" in, and of course since hot air rises, leaving that open a crack might help with a good convection of airflow?

My gut says one of these vents (that can be opened and shut) down low would draw in the coolest outside air, but would that air really be significantly colder than the outside air near your roof vent?
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Ran the ac for a while last night... not real effective. It was 79 outside, and setting it at 68, the best it could do was 73 on the other side, running continous. There is ALOT of make up air flowing into the trailer. I should've got a 2 hose portable ac, instead of 1. New plan is to build a shroud to the air intake for the condenser and put another hole in the floor, which will then act more like a 2 hose system.


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Would tucking the AC unit under the v-shelf facilitate duct works? Seems that space could be utilized rather than having the AC "out on the floor"?

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Okay: 2nd hole drilled and screened. Moved the shelf up. Card board shroud made to test concept. (By the way, if anyone wants a cardboard - origami - throw down, it's on!) While it isn't sealed by any means, it fits fairly close.

81 outside, set to 68. Walked away for a while, helping repair my coworkers cb300 that went down last track day. Came back 25 min laterish and it was 70, and the compressor was just kicking back on. I'm figuring there's a 2 degree deadband, so it's definately working much better.

It's still trying to draw a little bit of air into the trailer, however a better made shroud will likely help with that. Also I likely need to make some sort of divide, be it elbow, hose, piece of plywood whatever to separate the hot air out duct from the intake hole in the floor.


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Nice! Johnny - maybe we could do something like this with yours to help it work better?

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A better made shroud. Plus it's sturdy enough I can use it as a mount. One bungee cord around the whole shebang, and it's ready for transport, or complete removal.

Did another cool down test last night. 80 inside the trailer and out, cooled it down to 65 no problem. If I really want to get fancy, I could buy some closed cell foam and seal it off even better, (under the ac's caster wheels etc.) but it seems to work okay as is for now.


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A better made shroud. Plus it's sturdy enough I can use it as a mount. One bungee cord around the whole shebang, and it's ready for transport, or complete removal.

Did another cool down test last night. 80 inside the trailer and out, cooled it down to 65 no problem. If I really want to get fancy, I could buy some closed cell foam and seal it off even better, (under the ac's caster wheels etc.) but it seems to work okay as is for now.


Bravo dude, that's slick!

Now some weatherstripping around the edges as not to scratch the walls, and..and..and.. ;)

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61Cubes wrote:
A better made shroud. Plus it's sturdy enough I can use it as a mount. One bungee cord around the whole shebang, and it's ready for transport, or complete removal.

Did another cool down test last night. 80 inside the trailer and out, cooled it down to 65 no problem. If I really want to get fancy, I could buy some closed cell foam and seal it off even better, (under the ac's caster wheels etc.) but it seems to work okay as is for now.


Let me see if I'm following you process here, because I too run a single hose portable AC that could most certainly perform better...

You surrounded the intake portion of the the AC unit (bottom) with the shroud and also hidden within the shroud is a second hole in the floor to allow air in from the outside?


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A better made shroud. Plus it's sturdy enough I can use it as a mount. One bungee cord around the whole shebang, and it's ready for transport, or complete removal.

Did another cool down test last night. 80 inside the trailer and out, cooled it down to 65 no problem. If I really want to get fancy, I could buy some closed cell foam and seal it off even better, (under the ac's caster wheels etc.) but it seems to work okay as is for now.


Let me see if I'm following you process here, because I too run a single hose portable AC that could most certainly perform better...

You surrounded the intake portion of the the AC unit (bottom) with the shroud and also hidden within the shroud is a second hole in the floor to allow air in from the outside?


Yes. I surrounded the intake for the condenser portion only in a shroud and gave that closed off space it's own hole in the floor. This way the condenser air in = condenser air out. The intake for the evaporator must be left open. Basically all I'm doing is turning a single hose AC into a two hose type.

Like I mentioned, it's not perfectly sealed, and still drawing a tiny bit of hot outside (make up) air into the trailer, but it's drastically less than before. But since I have 8000btu for 70 sqft, it doesn't seem to care anymore. :D


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Well methinks I have a project to work on!


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But since I have 8000btu for 70 sqft, it doesn't seem to care anymore. :D


This kinda blows my mind, since according to the energy star site, 13.5K BTU should be sufficient for somewhere around 500-600 sq. ft. Yet my trailer is only 112 sq. ft, and the roof is pretty well insulated. It's the other 5 sides that aren't. Man, insulation is an amazing invention.

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Just for reference I ended up using 3/4" foam board insulation in the walls, and 1" in the roof.


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AC update:

While the ac worked fine in late afternoon test scenarios, when the sun is beating on the aluminum skin and frame, the best it could muster was about 86 degrees on a 95 degree day.

Feeling the surfaces in the trailer, the plywood walls and ceiling were fairly cool, except for the aluminum around the skylight, and where the corners are exposed, (where it's not convienent to insulate) were hot to the touch. The aluminum (obviously) really brings in the heat.

Next step is to find some sort of heat tape to cover the aluminum.


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61Cubes wrote:
AC update:

While the ac worked fine in late afternoon test scenarios, when the sun is beating on the aluminum skin and frame, the best it could muster was about 86 degrees on a 95 degree day.

Feeling the surfaces in the trailer, the plywood walls and ceiling were fairly cool, except for the aluminum around the skylight, and where the corners are exposed, (where it's not convienent to insulate) were hot to the touch. The aluminum (obviously) really brings in the heat.

Next step is to find some sort of heat tape to cover the aluminum.



might be best to frame it out and spray foam it.


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61Cubes wrote:
AC update:

While the ac worked fine in late afternoon test scenarios, when the sun is beating on the aluminum skin and frame, the best it could muster was about 86 degrees on a 95 degree day.

Feeling the surfaces in the trailer, the plywood walls and ceiling were fairly cool, except for the aluminum around the skylight, and where the corners are exposed, (where it's not convienent to insulate) were hot to the touch. The aluminum (obviously) really brings in the heat.

Next step is to find some sort of heat tape to cover the aluminum.


Put your hand on the floor.. I was unpleasantly surprised there too.

My roof is silver aluminum but heavily insulated with house insulation, and the trailer not being black helps. Oh, and the A/C is also 13.5k BTU.

Maybe you should run a schedule J and see what it would take to cool your trailer? :P

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Just like this photo. Trailer full of red bikes. :rockon:


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How about some white paint to seal all that wood and provide more light?

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